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Saturday, December 23, 2006

Happy Christmas Manorbier

As the season of goodwill to all men (and women) is now upon us I would like to wish you all a Happy Christmas and a peaceful and productive New Year.  May you receive the blessings and good fortune that you wish for others.  Remember that after your family and friends the next most important thing is the community that you live in.


Saturday, December 16, 2006

Manorbier Taxpayer - xenophobe?

The semi-literate xenophobic rantings of "Manorbier Taxpayer" in his post of 13th December http://manorbiertaxpayer.blogspot.com/2006/12/i-am-not-on-benefits.html
really does mark an all time low in Manorbier blogging.

Since it's obviously not possible to conduct a serious debate with someone who holds these extreme and bigoted views I won't waste my time trying. Instead I'll pose a few questions that he might like to consider and perhaps provide some answers to.

Back in 2004 when the 10 Community Council seats were up for elections only 7 people could be bothered to put their names forward! Where were you when our community needed your help?

It is to my deep regret that I didn't come forward for the Council at that time. It was only when the issue of Night Firing arose and I became aware of the digraceful conduct of certain councillors that I decided I should try to do something, which was why I set up this blog.

You say you think the Council should do things properly. So who should decide what constitutes doing things properly - you?

I suspect what you mean is if the Council do things you approve of that is proper, but if they do things you don't approve of that isn't proper.

A rather self-centred attitude don't you think?

You'll no doubt be pleased, as we all are, that the Christmas tree is now standing.

Did you take up my suggestion that you should volunteer to help? I doubt it.

The rest of your rant doesn't merit any reponse except to say that I feel a sense of sadness and shame that my village can harbour someone with your views!


Caveat:
Although, in the above post I have treated "Manorbier Taxpayer" at face value I do have serious doubts. I have strong suspicions that the person behind this blog is not the semi-literate they would have us think. So, reader, I urge you to look on all blogs(even my own) with the critical eye of experience and judge them for yourself , as independently and impartially as you can.


For the benefit of "Manorbier Taxpayer" xenophobia = an intense or irrational dislike or fear of strangers

Monday, December 11, 2006

The Welfare State Whingers

The latest post by someone who calls himself "Manorbier Tax Payer" is typical of what I call the 'Welfare State Whingers'.  They are very hot on their 'rights' and are quick to hold out their hands for any benefits that are going and expect some mysterious 'they' to do everything for them without wanting to lift a finger to help themselves or others.  When it comes to the 'responsibilities' that go with 'rights' they suddenly become very quiet and sit on their hands.
 
"Manorbier Tax Payer's" current whinge is that the Manorbier Christmas tree was not put up as quickly as he would have liked.  He puts the sole blame on the Community Council who "...cant be bothered to put "OUR" xmas tree up" (sic).
 
Can I suggest he shows the Christmas spirit that he thinks is lacking in the Community Council and gets up of his backside and volunteers to lend a hand to erect the tree, it is after all YOUR tree!  That way you can enjoy Christmas in the knowledge that you have done at least one thing this year to help your local community.
 
It only takes a telephone call to the Chairman and an hour of your precious time.
 

Saturday, December 09, 2006

Why Didn't One of You Take the Minutes Then? cont...

 
I really seem to have hit a raw nerve with Cllr Martin Davies judging by his latest post (4:28 pm 9th December) on his blog "Manorbier Life".  It appears he is so short of logical and reasoned argument that he is forced to descend to the level of personal abuse, calling me 'yellow' and a 'village idiot', always the sign of someone on very shaky ground with no valid arguments left.  Still, if it makes him feel better it doesn't upset me, so you go ahead Cllr Davies bring the council into disrepute again - I've been called worse things by much better men than you and I'm still going strong!
 
With his wide knowledge of the law, Cllr Davies should be familiar with the rules surrounding the working of community councils but when it comes to the duties of the vice-chairman it seems that he falls flat on his face!
 
Let me try, once again, to enlighten him.  The only extra duty falling to the vice-chairman is, as the title suggests, to chair meetings in the absence of the chairman, nothing more nothing less.  With this one exception he has exactly the same responsibilities and duties as every other member of the council.  So with that in mind one has to ask why, when Cllrs Davies, Calver and Kidney declined to take the minutes, Cllrs Davies and Calver thought there was nothing untoward or sinister about their decision. On the other hand when Cllr Coleman also declined this was to be interpreted as the sign of some dark plot?  A  rather warped and biased point of view don't you think?
 
Since both Cllr Davies and Cllr Calver seemed to get so hot under the collar when Cllr Coleman declined to take the minutes and failed to 'help' the council I must repeat my original question.
 
If they were so convinced that there was some dire plot afoot then why didn't either Cllr Davies or Cllr Calver put a stop to it by stepping in to volunteer to take the minutes themselves and 'help' the council? 
 
This is a very simple and easily answered question but one which seems to cause them considerable difficulty! 
 
According to Cllr Davies their only reason for declining to take the minutes was because Cllr Coleman wasn't prepared to and they weren't going to do something Cllr Coleman wouldn't do! 
 
I really can't believe that they are both such timid sheep that they meekly follow Cllr Coleman's lead in everything!
 
 

Why Didn't You Offer to Take the Minutes Then?

I see that Cllrs Davies and Cllr Calver have both rushed to publish their distorted, but strangely similar, versions of the December meeting of the Community Council.

Let me put the record straight. I have spoken to 3 of the 5 councillors present when the meeting opened and to 1 member of the public, their account is a little different.

The Chairman opened the meeting and announced that because Cllr Neads, the Proper Officer, was unable to attend the meeting he was asking councillors if one of them would volunteer to take the minutes. There were no volunteers so the Chairman had no option but to adjourn the meeting(it is a legal requirement that minutes are taken at council meetings).

Both Cllr Calver and Cllr Davies suggest in their posts that someone had something to hide.

If they were genuinely concerned that there was some dire plot underway they had a simple and effective way to forestall it. One of them could have offered to take the minutes but, strangely, they too declined to do so, I wonder why!

So I repeat the question I posed in the title of this blog.

Why didn't either Davis or Calver offer to take the minutes.

If, as they seem to suggest, there is some guilt attached to not wanting to take the minutes of the meeting then it attaches equally to them. Perhaps they are the ones with something to hide! Think about it.

Wednesday, December 06, 2006

A Letter to the Editor of the Western Telegraph

Dear Editor
I waited with interest to see if there would be any letters published in your 6th December edition commenting on the article by Simon Carr "Beware of potential pitfalls or risk being forced to 'blog off'" (29th November). Its a great pity you didn't see fit to let any of your readers reply to your extremely one sided picture of blogging.

I will comment mainly from the point of view of my own blog without getting too deeply into the debate on blogging in general.

The first impression I got on reading your article was that it was an attempt on your part to placate Cllr Calver after you had the temerity to report his behaviour in relation to pupils in Manorbier Primary School in your previous edition. Perhaps I'm being too cynical!

The article asserts that "...many people believe these new opportunities are fraught with danger". Who are these 'many people' and what is the danger? You seem to have only spoken to three people. Cllr Calver, a man who cannot stand legitimate criticism and questioning whether by blog or by newspaper, Owain Carter, who believes that the benefits of blogging greatly outweigh the potential problems and your legal adviser, David Scott, who quite rightly points out that the same laws that apply to newspapers apply equally to blogs.

You go on to say "...gives everyone ... a way of publishing their views without screening or censorship". Surely this is a good thing, this is one of the main strengths of blogs. I am amazed that a newspaper would give a millimetre of column space to the idea that any form of publishing should be subject to censorship!

Remember, with censorship there must be a censor (a post that Cllr Calver would apply for like a shot) and if blogs become subject to censorship how long before newspapers follow?

Your next point "Some people can abuse the facility, making up lies, spreading rumours or bullying ... while remaining anonymous" seems to imply that the subject of a blog is powerless to rebut what is said. Not so! A person who is the subject of a blog has a full right of reply, he or she can set up their own blog to counter any accusations made. Some blogs, my own included, also allow a right of reply by the posting of comments.

When Cllr Calver's supporters accused me of posting lies I responded with the article entitled "An Offer They Can't Refuse" (20 March 2006).

What I said in that article was:

"Well here is an offer to Martin Davies and Malcolm Calver and anyone else who thinks they know the truth. Tell me which parts of my blog are untrue and provide me with your 'documentary evidence' and I will post it in this blog and if your evidence in irrefutable I will even post a full apology"

Needless to say this offer was greeted with a deafening silence.

Now lets consider "There is no system in place to ensure that what is published ... is legally, morally or factually sound". Both criminal and civil law are available if blog writers step outside the law. As to moral soundness, who is to be the judge of the moral soundness of a blog? Perhaps the same person who is going to wield the censor's blue pencil? If transgressing the bounds of morality were a crime then a major percentage of the population would be in jail. As for being factually sound, I endeavour to publish the truth as I'm sure you do, but what publications are ever completely factually sound and can we ever find the whole truth indeed is there such a thing as absolute truth? I learnt many years ago not to believe unconditionally what I read, hear or see in the media and I would advise others to adopt the same attitude.

Oh dear! so"Cllr Calver experienced the unpleasant side of blogging" did he! What Cllr Calver finds unpleasant about the Manorbier blogs is that they mock and ridicule him, something that the self important find intolerable, and worse still the blogs ask uncomfortable and awkward questions about his conduct as our County Councillor. This ability to question is still a right that we all enjoy however inconvenient and uncomfortable politicians may find it and however much they would love to silence us.

Indeed Cllr Calver succeeded in closing down a campaign run by the opponents of night firing at Manorbier that they had running on one of the BBC community sites.

Cllr Calver's statement "It bothers me that people are able to say what they like about anyone" really does take first prize for hypocrisy, for years he has been running his own website on which he has been saying exactly what he likes about other members of the Community Council with scant regard for the truth. Now that he is on the receiving end he suddenly thinks freedom of speech might not be such a good idea after all! A case of the biter bit?

Providing what we say is not libellous then we still have a modicum of free speech in this country however uncomfortable the truth may be to the likes of Cllr Calver.

He goes on to say "I think it is disgraceful that the police say that they can do nothing about it". I am sure that if the writers of the Manorbier blogs were doing or saying anything illegal then the police would take action but until the day the "thought police" become a reality we will continue to ask those awkward and uncomfortable questions of our elected representatives - indeed that is still our right. The fact that we do it anonymously is completely irrelevant.

Finally, can I suggest that one of the reasons for the anonymity of the Manorbier blogs is Cllr Calver's propensity to threaten anyone who opposes or upsets him with legal action which, however unlikely to be carried through or succeed, does deterred some people. (Does this sound familiar to you Mr Editor?).

Yours in search of the truth

Manorbier Sam